Curse

relientK_fan · May 26, 2005, 02:55 PM // 14:55

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Originally Posted by mapoone

My first 100 hours of game play was amazing.. Was among some of the first to Ascend, and among some of the first to finish the Story. Now it's kinda like WTF? PVP seems to be owned by the hardcore players of it, the same names are seen trhoughout the day of winning HoH. And besides, i truly (my opinion) don't find the PVP in GW that much fun. Just wandering if anyone else has my same feelings. Looks like it might be my last week or two for real play time, and I'll be going back to SWG (sigh :/)

100 hours? Heh, I can't get 70+ out of Final Fantasy X. Consider yourself lucky you did not waste 50 dollars.

Vashna · May 26, 2005, 03:14 PM // 15:14

Yes, I'm getting a bit bored. The grinding has taken its toll. The missions are just an arcade game, really. In fact, the Guild Wars missions seem to me designed from the point of view of an arcade game developer- create forced choke points and spawn points that you have to die to learn (thus, forcing the player to spend more quarters). Of course, once you learn the missions, it's just a brainless exercise. It's fun the first time around, but I do not feel like doing them over again. Put another way, if you (1) finished the missions once, (2) wanted to develop another character to unlock different skills, and (3) someone offered you to run the missions for you for free, would you take that offer? I know I would. And yet, if I choose not to develop another character, I can't really explore PvP with other classes. (Sure, I could change secondaries, but skill points come hard after level 20).

What surprises me a bit is that I'm getting a bit bored with PvP, which I thought would be the saving grace of GW. Maybe it's because most teams like to run Tombs of the Primeval Kings. I'm not sure if I like the set up in the Hall of Heroes and how it encourages a narrow set of specialized builds designed around simply holding an altar with a bot against 2 other teams. I would prefer the final round of Hall of Heroes to be a 2 way all-out brawl between the top two teams, not a 3 way king of the hill.

On a positive note, the 4 person arenas are getting busier, which is a nice change in PvP action. And of course, no monthly fee which means I can and go as I please (and hope that my PvP partners are still around).

I still feel I definitely got my money's worth, though. 3-4 week of steady entertainment is a good deal for a computer game, IMHO.

Teufel Eldritch · May 27, 2005, 09:49 AM // 09:49

I must admit I'm getting bored somewhat too. I'm getting tired of doing the same mission(s) over & over & over & over. Then again I only play pug's so the quantity & quality of teamplayers are lower. I get tired of spending several days at someplace that should only take me a few hours due to the stupidity of others to screw the mission up. I like playing FoW tho. I seem to find a higher caliber of teamplayer there.

Snowman · May 27, 2005, 11:57 AM // 11:57

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Originally Posted by Teufel Eldritch

I must admit I'm getting bored somewhat too. I'm getting tired of doing the same mission(s) over & over & over & over. Then again I only play pug's so the quantity & quality of teamplayers are lower. I get tired of spending several days at someplace that should only take me a few hours due to the stupidity of others to screw the mission up. I like playing FoW tho. I seem to find a higher caliber of teamplayer there.

I dont accept that its 'other peoples stupidity' that makes you stay longer on a mission thant it should take.

I have completed the game with just bots.. why do people feel the need to team with real players to get past a mission? I only team with real players that need help..

complete the mission with bots first.. then when you want the bonus, look for a team that wants to do the bonus, they are much better teams because they have done that quest before..

I've put over 200 hours into the game at the moment.. havnt unlocked all my skills for my character.. and even if I did there are other professions that I want to do the game with again, actually I cant wait to go through with other characters..

Bored?.. after 200 hours I'm just getting stuck in...

The only people who are bored are those that arnt very good at the game.. everyone gets bored with a game they arnt very good at...

frankly I hope bored people would just go play something else, your crap at GW.. do something your good at

The Snowman

Stur · May 27, 2005, 12:12 PM // 12:12

You know I was just sitting here contemplating the future of the game (yes I know I have no life, my co-workers remind me all the time), and it dawned to me. This game is still only about a month old, and hopefully soon enough all the bored people will start dropping off and the people that love the game will stay and start building a stronger and stronger community for all of us to enjoy. That what the people that came form FPS’s need to understand, this game will get stronger and stronger because interpersonal relationships and loyalties will form in game and last years, not because they gave out an “I Win” button. Guild will develop rivalries and a year from now no one will be complaining about the grind. This game has a bright future as long as they don’t bow down after the first month of complaining.

To answer the question, no I’m not bored, and I hope I never do get bored.

Teufel Eldritch · May 27, 2005, 12:13 PM // 12:13

I would agree that bots are better than humans however playing with them turns a multiplayer game into a single player game. I dont want to play with bots but many of the times I am forced to as many humans just dont seem to work well together.

If the game hasnt got boring for you I am happy for you... really I am, but just because it has for me doesnt mean I am somehow wrong or whatever. It just means that GW(in it's current state at least) is or was not for me.

Then again I am not to happy with any game lately. They all seem to get repetitve & boring after a while. I was hoping GW would break this, cure this, change this for me but it hasnt. The boring problem on my end could very well be all me but that doesn't explain others getting bored with the game tho.

Now Im not dissing GW or ANet in anyway... just stating that GW is no longer as fun for me as it used to be & is in fact becoming more of a chore to play than a pleasure. It just isnt as fun for me anymore.

Dirkiess · May 27, 2005, 01:39 PM // 13:39

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Originally Posted by Teufel Eldritch

Then again I am not to happy with any game lately. They all seem to get repetitve & boring after a while. I was hoping GW would break this, cure this, change this for me but it hasnt. The boring problem on my end could very well be all me but that doesn't explain others getting bored with the game tho.

Before you say anything, i'm not having a go.
I agree with you that a lot of games get repetitive and there are some poor games out there.
And you say that most games are boring for you lately. Do you have any activities besides gaming that you take up, or is it all gaming. If so, go get an activity outside of your PC and you may find you come back to gaming with more enthusiasm.

As for GW for me, i haven't played long but i do see a lot of bored people hanging around. Whining and moaning. I hope they go too, as it's not good for new players.
I'm an FPS player and i enjoy those a lot, but i also enjoy MMORPG's and have a lot of fun with them.
Having a guild of good players is what also makes it fun to play too. It's all about Quality not quantity.

Sting · May 27, 2005, 01:53 PM // 13:53

Yeah I play much less now than when game first came out. Partly from boredom but mainly agrivation of being a Ranger LFG and after waiting around 30min or so getting a group then listening for another 5 minutes of someone complaining they got a ranger (god forbid 2 LOL), then going into HoH and B4 we complete the Rifts someone yells "F---ing nOObs" and leaves LOL. So its a mixture of perception/reality rangers suck, boredom, and quiters. Also groups seem to be carbon copies in HoH 3mo, 3or4 W/?? (usually W/Mo) and 1 or 2 casters (usually E/??).

Do I think it was a waste of money NO, do I think they could make it better definately.

Snowman · May 27, 2005, 03:00 PM // 15:00

There are so many skills in this game to pickup... so many places to explore.. hundreds of different strategies and build types.... I find it hard to beleive that anyone can be be bored simply because there is a lack of things to do!

there is so much to do that only the most anti-social would have got EVERYTHING unlocked and explored by now.. especially only after one month.

so, if its NOT that people are running out of things to do... and I dont think that anyone could be bored of the graphics... the question has to be asked again... WHY are some people bored and some people not?

I dont think this question has been properly answerd yet!

what IS bordom?

boredom

n : the feeling of being bored by something tedious [syn: ennui, tedium]

Synonyms: boring, monotonous, tedious, irksome, tiresome, humdrum
These adjectives refer to what is so uninteresting as to cause mental weariness. Boring implies feelings of listlessness and discontent:

These definitions (http://dictionary.reference.com/) makes me think that people arnt getting what I call a 'BUZZ' out of the game.. every game requires a bit of work to get this 'BUZZ'.. but a buzz is essentially a mental reward for acheiving something.. we become bored if the reward no longer worth the work!

I would like to suggest that the rewards in this game, for some people, require too much work.

Alternativley people are seeking rewards that are possibly TOO hard to acheive with their current characters.. therfore getting bored quickly as there is no reward anymore.

It cant be helped if people are trying to run before they can walk getting frustrated, but, if like me you DONT want to get bored then I suggest doing what I do...

When I log on, I look at where I am, look at my missions available, see what friends are on-line, look at parts of the map not yet discoverd, skills I havnt got yet.. and SET YOURSELF A GOAL!!

setting yourself acheivable goals will give you far more in the way of rewards.. Even if it is to help a guild memeber get from A to B... I've acheived something, and because I am basically seting myself goals and acheiving them regularly the only thing that frustrates me at the end of the night is the fact that I have to goto bed

Once you have acheived a goal.. (even if its to sell your sword).. set another goal STRAIGHT AWAY... otherwise you WILL get bored, because you have nothing to do.

I hope this helps people who dont want to be bored... maybe someone else can suggest otherways of stopping boredom ? as opposed to venting frustration about being bored.

(sorry for the long post, I'm bored at work)

The Snowman

Sting · May 27, 2005, 03:08 PM // 15:08

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Originally Posted by Snowman

(sorry for the long post, I'm bored at work)
The Snowman

Let me guess your an Isperational speaker

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Snowman · May 27, 2005, 03:37 PM // 15:37

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Originally Posted by Sting

Let me guess your an Isperational speaker

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LOL

Actually I sell to business's in the UK... but the pay(reward) is no longer worth the work(selling).. so bordom and I have a special relationship. Not because I find it hard.. in fact I find it easy.. no challenge, no buzz.. discontent, bored.

Dred Skullord · May 27, 2005, 03:49 PM // 15:49

PvE was fun. However, the missions were very lineal and you could not really explore that much. You basically snake through a mission until you reach the last boss, not unlike Donkey Kond. PvP and GvG is as about as fun as a chess match. Still, GW is worth the $50.

trekkiewheels · May 27, 2005, 03:51 PM // 15:51

Great game just gotta build up a couple chars. then get ready for expansions!

Ashock · May 27, 2005, 04:43 PM // 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowman

There are so many skills in this game to pickup... so many places to explore.. hundreds of different strategies and build types.... I find it hard to beleive that anyone can be be bored simply because there is a lack of things to do!

there is so much to do that only the most anti-social would have got EVERYTHING unlocked and explored by now.. especially only after one month.

so, if its NOT that people are running out of things to do... and I dont think that anyone could be bored of the graphics... the question has to be asked again... WHY are some people bored and some people not?

I dont think this question has been properly answerd yet!

what IS bordom?

boredom

n : the feeling of being bored by something tedious [syn: ennui, tedium]

Synonyms: boring, monotonous, tedious, irksome, tiresome, humdrum
These adjectives refer to what is so uninteresting as to cause mental weariness. Boring implies feelings of listlessness and discontent:

These definitions (http://dictionary.reference.com/) makes me think that people arnt getting what I call a 'BUZZ' out of the game.. every game requires a bit of work to get this 'BUZZ'.. but a buzz is essentially a mental reward for acheiving something.. we become bored if the reward no longer worth the work!

I would like to suggest that the rewards in this game, for some people, require too much work.

Alternativley people are seeking rewards that are possibly TOO hard to acheive with their current characters.. therfore getting bored quickly as there is no reward anymore.

It cant be helped if people are trying to run before they can walk getting frustrated, but, if like me you DONT want to get bored then I suggest doing what I do...

When I log on, I look at where I am, look at my missions available, see what friends are on-line, look at parts of the map not yet discoverd, skills I havnt got yet.. and SET YOURSELF A GOAL!!

setting yourself acheivable goals will give you far more in the way of rewards.. Even if it is to help a guild memeber get from A to B... I've acheived something, and because I am basically seting myself goals and acheiving them regularly the only thing that frustrates me at the end of the night is the fact that I have to goto bed

Once you have acheived a goal.. (even if its to sell your sword).. set another goal STRAIGHT AWAY... otherwise you WILL get bored, because you have nothing to do.

I hope this helps people who dont want to be bored... maybe someone else can suggest otherways of stopping boredom ? as opposed to venting frustration about being bored.

(sorry for the long post, I'm bored at work)

The Snowman

Hmm, have you ever considered that maybe, just maybe some people are bored of the game because it does not fulfill their gaming needs, because it is simply not that good? If your imagination is structured in such a way that you consider something like unlocking all the skills or counting the blades of grass or watching paint dry as fun, that is your business.
Also, you assume too much about people's skills being not up to par. Don't measure everyone by your yardstick as some have a much longer one that you do. Yah, you can interpret that in any way you desire.

-A

Eos · May 27, 2005, 05:02 PM // 17:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stur

You know I was just sitting here contemplating the future of the game (yes I know I have no life, my co-workers remind me all the time), and it dawned to me. This game is still only about a month old, and hopefully soon enough all the bored people will start dropping off and the people that love the game will stay and start building a stronger and stronger community for all of us to enjoy. That what the people that came form FPS’s need to understand, this game will get stronger and stronger because interpersonal relationships and loyalties will form in game and last years, not because they gave out an “I Win” button. Guild will develop rivalries and a year from now no one will be complaining about the grind. This game has a bright future as long as they don’t bow down after the first month of complaining.

To answer the question, no I’m not bored, and I hope I never do get bored.

This is spot on. This game is going through its "hot" phase right now, everybody and their mother's brother wants to play. Those who dislike it or bore of it quickly will likely move on to the next big thing, and they will leave behind those who truly love the game, and those are the people who will form a true community and make the game shine in years to come. I still play PSO v2 and while the majority of people would think the game passe, I have one thing in common with all the people who play, we all love PSO, and we make eachother's experience in game that much better for it. I have nothing against those who wish to move on, because it is an absolutely good thing. Those who find it boring now hopefully got their money's worth and can go enjoy something else, and those who wish to stay will become part of a great community. Everybody wins.

Dred Skullord · May 27, 2005, 06:33 PM // 18:33

I think the bored people, myself somewhat included, are hoping the expansion will make the game more interesting. GW is a good game but I did not expect the grind to kick in this early as a casual player. But, the dev's are hard at work and I am waiting to see what they come up with.

dugman · May 27, 2005, 10:42 PM // 22:42

I got the game on release and have two characters - one I play strictly with a friend of mine, to stay at the same point as him, and another I play when he's not around. Both of us have zero interest in guilds or PvP, and we're both having a great time in the game just doing the PvE missions and exploring. One thing I noticed is that it's incredibly easy to miss missions and collectors if you don't thoroughly explore every zone. I ended up spending a good two days going through various old missions my solo character had missed.

Neither character is even close to finishing the game, even though my solo character is already level 20, and there's still tons of skills for both to pick up. So no, I'm not bored yet and I'm just doing PvE, period. (PvP isn't my bag.)

Anyway, thought I'd post that since it boggles my mind that anyone could complain that they played a game for a solid 100 hours but the game isn't good because "now I'm bored". I can think of MANY games that you get a lot less enjoyment out of for your $50. My two cents.

Pandora's box · May 27, 2005, 11:10 PM // 23:10

The only thing I'm bored about is that the game is very repetitive. Especially the team missions that need to be done over and over again just to find out how to beat the end sequence are very boring to me. Also I would like to devellope some new chr's but what keeps me from doing it are all the missions I have to do over again. I think it would be much more fun if it would be possible to level by random dungeons in maps rather than doing the same quests again and again.

Trenchsoul · May 28, 2005, 02:13 AM // 02:13

I wouldn't be bored out of my mind if I had a guild to pvp with. Pickup groups are absolute jokes now that well organized guilds are beginning to dominate the hall of heroes. I really like the random 4v4 pvp, but there isn't anything to be gained, and it ends up being a disapointment.

eventhorizen · May 28, 2005, 02:28 AM // 02:28

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Originally Posted by mapoone

My first 100 hours of game play was amazing.. Was among some of the first to Ascend, and among some of the first to finish the Story. Now it's kinda like WTF? PVP seems to be owned by the hardcore players of it, the same names are seen trhoughout the day of winning HoH. And besides, i truly (my opinion) don't find the PVP in GW that much fun. Just wandering if anyone else has my same feelings. Looks like it might be my last week or two for real play time, and I'll be going back to SWG (sigh :/)

Lets all count shall we.... I know that im somewhere around the 300 hour mark since european release, dunno about the rest of you.
I currenlty have a lvl 20, 19, 17 and iv had a bunch of random 'spare' characters too. None ascended yet, though iv checked out HoH etc. with pvp only, and underworld with PvE.
I reckon this is one of the best games this year, if not for a while. The pvp while iv not done anything i could say was 'groundbreaking' has been pretty cool. Its got lots of options, can be highly tactical, can be a straight out slugfest, its never felt unfair, its always felt good to kill someone, and its hasnt really been much of a bore.
niceworld in places to explore, the occasional normal person to chat in lions arch